Comments on: Psychiatry and psychotherapy: beyond good and evil? http://bananapeelproject.org/2008/08/06/psychiatry-and-psychotherapy-beyond-good-and-evil/ Tue, 28 Sep 2010 23:54:49 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Robert Long M.D. http://bananapeelproject.org/2008/08/06/psychiatry-and-psychotherapy-beyond-good-and-evil/#comment-731 Robert Long M.D. Fri, 02 Apr 2010 03:50:49 +0000 http://bananapeelproject.org/?p=180#comment-731 The reason that pharmacological approaches are becoming increasingly used in therapeutic situations is because they actually WORK. Psychological disturbances have biological underpinnings, 100% of the time. Tell someone with parkinsons disease that they should see a psychologist. Tell someone with alzheimer's that they need a good talking to. It doesn't work. The same goes for every illness of the mind discussed previously. Its all biology, tards. The reason that pharmacological approaches are becoming increasingly used in therapeutic situations is because they actually WORK. Psychological disturbances have biological underpinnings, 100% of the time. Tell someone with parkinsons disease that they should see a psychologist. Tell someone with alzheimer’s that they need a good talking to. It doesn’t work. The same goes for every illness of the mind discussed previously. Its all biology, tards.

]]> By: Linda Chapman http://bananapeelproject.org/2008/08/06/psychiatry-and-psychotherapy-beyond-good-and-evil/#comment-676 Linda Chapman Fri, 29 Jan 2010 18:31:14 +0000 http://bananapeelproject.org/?p=180#comment-676 More and more I think we are going to see the growth of "energy psychology" approaches like Zensight, EFT, etc. In my own experience and in that of clients I have to say that they are far more effective and empowering than the pharmaceutical approach. At the same time, they can be used in conjunction with antidepressives and anti-anxiety medications. More and more I think we are going to see the growth of “energy psychology” approaches like Zensight, EFT, etc. In my own experience and in that of clients I have to say that they are far more effective and empowering than the pharmaceutical approach. At the same time, they can be used in conjunction with antidepressives and anti-anxiety medications.

]]> By: Cheryl Fuller, Ph.D. http://bananapeelproject.org/2008/08/06/psychiatry-and-psychotherapy-beyond-good-and-evil/#comment-172 Cheryl Fuller, Ph.D. Sat, 13 Sep 2008 15:39:53 +0000 http://bananapeelproject.org/?p=180#comment-172 Remember the line in "Jerry Maguire" -- "Sho me the money!" ? Because that is mostly what this is about. Psychiatrists in a medication based practice can earn a great deal more than those who practice therapy. Insurance companies have much more control over prescribers than over therapists. Many patients would prefer a pill to introspection and besides, their insurance pays more for medication than they do or therapy. Then there is also professional self-esteem -- psychiatrists who focus on prescribing are more like "real" doctors, who do procedures and prescribe medicines than are doctor who talk and listen to patients. And then there is turf guarding -- now that counselors, nurses, social workers and psychologists engage in the practice of psychotherapy, being able to prescribe makes psychiatrists stand out and have that turf to themselves. Which means more market share. Not that I am cynical or anything like that. Remember the line in “Jerry Maguire” — “Sho me the money!” ? Because that is mostly what this is about. Psychiatrists in a medication based practice can earn a great deal more than those who practice therapy. Insurance companies have much more control over prescribers than over therapists. Many patients would prefer a pill to introspection and besides, their insurance pays more for medication than they do or therapy.

Then there is also professional self-esteem — psychiatrists who focus on prescribing are more like “real” doctors, who do procedures and prescribe medicines than are doctor who talk and listen to patients.

And then there is turf guarding — now that counselors, nurses, social workers and psychologists engage in the practice of psychotherapy, being able to prescribe makes psychiatrists stand out and have that turf to themselves. Which means more market share.

Not that I am cynical or anything like that.

]]> By: swivelchair http://bananapeelproject.org/2008/08/06/psychiatry-and-psychotherapy-beyond-good-and-evil/#comment-171 swivelchair Wed, 10 Sep 2008 18:08:27 +0000 http://bananapeelproject.org/?p=180#comment-171 Enjoyed the article BB, but I have a slightly more cynical and commercially crass take on it: money from psychmeds themselves, rather than any philosophical underpinnings. Prozac was one of the most heavily advertised drugs ever. The DTC ads are credited with being a game changer in having patients go to their docs and get the drugs - rather than the other way around. On the whole, though, I think that "medicalizing" mental illness is good, because it removes any stigma. You're not "depressed" you're serotonin depleted. You're not obese, you're 5ht2c understimulated. You're not foolhardy, you're dopaminergically challenged. I think there has to be psychotherapy involved at least for a cognitive understanding of how thought processes and behavior can change. It will be interesting to see if there is a backlash against meds in the future for taking all the variety out of being human. Actually there is a "Wired" article about psychopaths taking a pill to be "kind" and many of those making comments said that psychopaths are necessary to fulfill "James Bond" kind of jobs. Enjoyed the article BB, but I have a slightly more cynical and commercially crass take on it: money from psychmeds themselves, rather than any philosophical underpinnings.

Prozac was one of the most heavily advertised drugs ever. The DTC ads are credited with being a game changer in having patients go to their docs and get the drugs – rather than the other way around.

On the whole, though, I think that “medicalizing” mental illness is good, because it removes any stigma. You’re not “depressed” you’re serotonin depleted. You’re not obese, you’re 5ht2c understimulated. You’re not foolhardy, you’re dopaminergically challenged. I think there has to be psychotherapy involved at least for a cognitive understanding of how thought processes and behavior can change.

It will be interesting to see if there is a backlash against meds in the future for taking all the variety out of being human. Actually there is a “Wired” article about psychopaths taking a pill to be “kind” and many of those making comments said that psychopaths are necessary to fulfill “James Bond” kind of jobs.

]]> By: Wednesday Round Up #27 « Neuroanthropology http://bananapeelproject.org/2008/08/06/psychiatry-and-psychotherapy-beyond-good-and-evil/#comment-168 Wednesday Round Up #27 « Neuroanthropology Wed, 03 Sep 2008 11:28:51 +0000 http://bananapeelproject.org/?p=180#comment-168 [...] Peel Project, Psychiatry and Psychoanalysis: Beyond Good and Evil? Overcoming the biology vs. culture dynamic in dealing with mental [...] [...] Peel Project, Psychiatry and Psychoanalysis: Beyond Good and Evil? Overcoming the biology vs. culture dynamic in dealing with mental [...]

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